Comments on: And now back to our regularly scheduled programming https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189 fairly undermining public confidence in the administration of justice Fri, 11 May 2012 15:40:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Welcome to Room 101. | People v. State https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-3023 Fri, 11 May 2012 15:40:14 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-3023 […] in a similar situation I would have the courage to die like a lion rather than live like a dog, as Tony Serra so passionately put it. But it’s important to note that the State, which tortures people into betraying their […]

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By: John Kindley https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1936 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:29:45 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1936 In reply to Norm Pattis.

Norm, funny you should ask, as I was just watching it after seeing your link on twitter. I believe I have seen it before, as it looks familiar, but it’s been a long time, and I can’t remember if I watched all 8 in the series, though it would be strange if I didn’t, since the episode and a half I’ve watched / re-watched are excellent. Thanks for reminding me of this.

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By: Norm Pattis https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1935 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:25:40 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1935 John

Have you seen this series??

http://youtu.be/R-TeGrv32Ig

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By: John Kindley https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1934 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:36:16 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1934 In reply to Norm Pattis.

There’s another youtube video of him speaking where he really does come across as a burned out hippie spouting incomprehensible poetry. On the topic at hand I thought the second and third of his three points were quite lucid, and explained why he personally as a lawyer wouldn’t represent a snitch. On the first point, he made clear that this is the advice he’d give to his son or to people in general, and that as a lawyer he couldn’t and wouldn’t tell a client he should go to prison or kill himself before becoming a snitch. I posted these videos primarily because they passionately express the truth that, while physical freedom is a great good and prison a great evil, it is far better to suffer evil than to do evil.

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By: Norm Pattis https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1933 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:43:24 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1933 I love Serra, but he does remind me of the whacked out cameraman at the end of Apocalypse now. I was once a speaker at a seminar in Idaho where he was the keynote. We had lunch the next day. He is far too Hegelian for me to comprehend, but I love his passion

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By: John Kindley https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1932 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:46:06 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1932 In reply to Atticus.

Yeah, I mean what would Serra think of a cop who courageously “snitches” on another cop who plants evidence, etc.? I think what distinguishes disgraceful “snitching” as opposed to courageous whistle-blowing is whether the snitch / whistle-blower does what he does to save his own butt. I think it’s safe to say that no “snitch” in the classic sense is snitching because he’s come to see the errors of his and his co-criminals’ ways and now wants to make amends to society. Note that the client Serra described talking to at the jail was thinking about snitching on somebody the client described as his “best friend.”

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By: Atticus https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189&cpage=1#comment-1931 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:27:01 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1189#comment-1931 I think he’s taking a kernel of truth and trying to blow it up to Hindenburg proportions. I don’t think loyalty to tribe trumps everything. Some tribes are murderous, lying, thieving and cheating thugs that do not deserve loyalty.

Interesting, though.

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