Comments on: Forming the Structure of the New Society Within the Shell of the Old https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350 fairly undermining public confidence in the administration of justice Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:28:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: mistah charley, ph.d. https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2214 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:22:22 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2214 Yes, I got here from IOZ’s blog. I do not consider myself an anarchist. Although i have enjoyed some anarchist creations (most keenly Rudy Rucker’s novel Software) I have done what I can to conform my mind to the Python Creed, which mentions “not enough hats” and goes on to assert that the soul is brought into existence through a process of “guided self-observation”.

In asserting that the MICFiC own my bodily existence, and every building in the world, I mean own in the sense of “can dispose of as they please”. They destroy whomever and whatever they wish – no one can stop them, or punish them afterwards.

Generally speaking, though, life goes on as usual – until it doesn’t.

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By: John Kindley https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2213 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:47:35 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2213 In reply to mistah charley, ph.d..

I assume you got here from IOZ’s blog. I thought all the regular commenters there were anarchists, as I am, but the sentiment you’ve expressed here is quite to the contrary, unless I misunderstand you. Caesar may believe he owns your life, but in reality he’s just a man like other men. Same for the men and women who “make up” the United States and its subsidiaries.

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By: mistah charley, ph.d. https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2212 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:16:04 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2212 re MLKing quoting Augustine:

I see it this way. The government enforces social law; the Creative Forces of the Universe enforce moral law. As Jesus said, “render unto Caesar that which is Caesar, and unto God that which is God’s.” God owns your immortal soul, if any; Caesar (the MICFiC) owns your life, the life of all your friends and family, and whether one stone remains on top of another in any city, town, or hamlet anywhere in the world.

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By: John Kindley https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2166 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:51:35 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2166 The utility of labels is famously limited. Nock, for example, who if I had to choose is probably my favorite political philosopher, is regarded as an exemplar of the “Old Right.” My second favorite political philosopher might be Karl Hess, who is regarded as an exemplar of the “New Left.”

If the threat is an army of a half million invading soldiers, is your average individual homeowner really going to be able to afford to pay the sum necessary to enable and induce a private security provider to muster the force necessary to fight that army? The quarter of a million militiamen committed to the defense of a particular territory, and paid for by neighbors whose security interests naturally overlap, sounds like a far more viable defense.

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By: If there’s a class war, how do I know whose side I’m on? | Absurd Results https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2165 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:51:55 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2165 […] do I know whose side I’m on? Posted on October 18, 2011 by Ryan In responding to this post by John of People v. State, I noticed that he linked to the International Workers of the World […]

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By: Ryan https://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350&cpage=1#comment-2164 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:17:43 +0000 http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=1350#comment-2164 John,

I certainly can’t disagree with someone who proposes a system that could co-exist with my preferred system! But I guess that’s what makes us libertarians—no matter if one might label you “left” and me “right.”

As for the national defense argument, however, I’m not particularly convinced that a territory-based system is necessary (although it can be sufficient). After all, if a Swiss can tell the German Kaiser that a quarter of a million Swiss militiamen would “shoot twice and go home” if invaded by a half million German soldiers, why couldn’t individuals subscribe to a security provider that promises to shoot on your behalf and then go home?

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